Episode 21

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Published on:

12th Jan 2023

Top Metal and Hard Rock Tours of the Year, Kiss News, Ozzy Osbourne and Paul Dianno playing Maiden classics (S7 E21)

Welcome to the Sounds on Vinyl show, where we cover the latest and greatest in the world of metal, hard rock, and blues. This week, we're excited to dive into the most profitable metal and hard rock tours of 2022. We'll also be discussing some exciting developments in the world of Kiss, updates on Ozzy Osbourne, and Paul Dianno's show in Greece with Gus G. playing Iron Maiden's early classics.

We also have new music from the Swedish band Urarta with "Orbit".

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[phil]:

hey hey this is this sounds on final show the only show on the internet

[phil]:

in the world in the universe that will make your fucking ears bleed this week

[phil]:

we've got the news we've got really expensive fucking vinal according to mike which is

[phil]:

going to be fun will be right back

[phil]:

hey hey what is going on my name is phil bowyer as always from across

[phil]:

the vast open sea where the vikings once ruled is my brother from another mother

[phil]:

professor rock star extraordinary r mike sinson mike let singer of all bands past present

[phil]:

in future the fun is going on in this brand new year it's twenty twenty

[phil]:

three can you believe it it's twenty twenty three

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yeah

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oh

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mother sucker

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yeah

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that's all i had to say i mean ship already

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already

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fuck and were only getting younger

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that's

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aren't

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true

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we

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yeah i mean

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or that's that

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yeah

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that is true

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yeah i mean

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well

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i mean

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i can't believe

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yeah

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it i mean i mean a couple of years ago were sitting here we could

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oh

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go outside because of carved we can go to shows who couldn't go through theaters

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and movies or whatever

[phil]:

oh

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and i couldn't play shows with

[phil]:

why

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my bands and all of a sudden fuck me we are like three years later

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and we're still here

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hm

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and we have to deal with

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yes

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this ship every day

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uh

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so i'm thinking we're digging

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ah

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deep in to music this year even deeper were going deep deep

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we're going balls

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deep under

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deep

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cover

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bitches

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i always wanted to say

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oh

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that well since you know this year twenty twenty

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h

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twenty three it's hard to say what the fuck

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i know it is

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yeah

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it's the future

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especially in english

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yeah

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what the fuck i have to i have to learn english at some point fuck

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well how

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doing

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do you how

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a

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do you say

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show

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it

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in

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in

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english

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sweet satan swedish

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she get sugar

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sugar pray okay

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yeah you see

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okay well there you go there you go there's

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there

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your

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we go

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swedish lesson for the for the year so far

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ah

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and if you already know

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so

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swedish

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far

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sorry

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yeah

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tough ship

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yeah and if and if there was an english teacher out there who can teach

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me to to speak proper english please let me know hook

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ah

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me up o d m or something i don't know i don't know where we're

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to go from this but but still i'm thinking that twenty twenty three is a

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year where you are going to see a lot of change on on the sansominal

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podcast

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oh

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and fil have some tricks up our sleeves and and if you have followed the

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show you

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no

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know i've made my one of my dreams

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yeah

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come true i'm

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oh

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opening up a record shop real live one where you have to visit me so

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it's called the sansavinal record story it's going to open

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a

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up

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oh

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during the fall so

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m

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pay close attention to this

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m

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podcast us a lot of cool ship coming up

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yeah

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well to i mean we're talking about vinal records on this show called on on

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bina of course and there's a lot of stuff that

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i

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i've been doing

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by

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buying up stacks

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a

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of vinal records for for this shop and i came across

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oh

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some pretty expensive records that i actually didn't

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no

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know that they were that

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a

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expensive

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m

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because there is a lot of stuff

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m

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that's been going

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no

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on with

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m

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price settings and so for last year i've been told

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m well

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so i had in the ball park i knew

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yeah

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that they were expensive so when i went on disgogand asked some friends i i

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was shocked actually

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m

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so the first one i'm going to show you here

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m give a

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even

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dose

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though well

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let

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let's not go there just going to show it and the reaction from

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yeah

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fail well you know this is a band called song garden and this is yeah

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i know

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that

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this

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that

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is

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there

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the

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is no garden of sound like when i think of a sound garden this is

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not

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yeah

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what i think of

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no

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it

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ut

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oh

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all the other normal people out there i don't know this is the the album

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called

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at

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bad molder finger from nineteen ninety one

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oh

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there's a lot of good stuff on this record but

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now

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nowadays you'll

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have

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have to pay between one

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yeah

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hundred up till two hundred dollars

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what

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for

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the

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this one

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fuck for that

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yeah

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for

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yeah

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that

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yeah you

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jes

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see

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well okay

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yes

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i mean

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yeah

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why

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oh

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it can't be for the music so why is it limited run or what oh

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come on man

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oh

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you see and the other one who this is actually an album that you really

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like

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oh

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an also a shocker for me when it comes to price setting

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oh yes

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queen's rise peris operation mind crime

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great

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also

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record

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from

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i

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nineteen eighty eight it's a great record

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ah

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i agree

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but

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but this one between fifty and hundred dollars

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okay that i can see that i can see

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going going back like

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i

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three four

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o years

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years you can

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yeah

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easily find this one for like twenty thirty

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he

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dollars easily

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yes m

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easily at the lowest it's fifty dollars i think the highest it's over hundred dollars

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so

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m

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between fifty and hundred just to make sure that

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m

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we're

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oh

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on

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dad

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the right track but

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now these prices that you're quoting are they

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oh

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for original pressings or just

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yes

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okay

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no

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all right so these

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there

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are for

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are

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originals

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original

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got okay

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yes

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regardless

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yeah

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regardless of country

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uh

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or like we're talking

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yeah

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for in the case of queen's rike us

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m

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right

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m yes

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okay

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there

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their

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is between like let's say ten to thirty dollars

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okay

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this is european pressing

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okay

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mostly of the stuff that i am going to show her what is european pressing

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otherwise

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the bit

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i will say it's

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yes

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it's a u s pressing

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oh

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so but there is not a big difference between

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ah

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these bands

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oh

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when it comes to two pressings from different countries

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we should do an episode on on that record we've never done queens

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yeah

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on the show

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oh no we haven't

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no we

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fucking

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haven't

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hell

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and

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oh

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in that that record

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oh

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especially that that's a great the warning well the e p the warning and this

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one are my three favorites from queen's rike so

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oh

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yeah

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cool

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so yeah i think we we

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oh

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we need

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and

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we need

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i

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to

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got

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talk

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some

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about this one oh

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oh yeah and i got some stories

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i

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about jeff tate

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okay cool

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and his wife

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and his wife

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and his wife

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oh

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and their manager

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okay

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some good stuff

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wow

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yeah

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or gay stay tuned

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yeah and this one

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ay

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i don't know if you know them it's a swedish band

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a

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from gothenburg called ever grey

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uh seems familiar

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yep

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but i'm going

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they

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to have to say no

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yeah they've been around for quite

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so

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some

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look

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time pretty popular here in sweden bentoriin the world

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yes

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and this

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a

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one it's called hims for the

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a

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broken

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m

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actually ship my pants

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m oh

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uh between one hundred and fifty two like

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i

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two fifty three hundred dollars it's only been printing in like

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i

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a couple of hundred

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okay so it's a limited

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copies

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run so that's why

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it's

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okay

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a limited

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well

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yeah

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okay

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so and this this actually is from like two

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no

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thousand and thirteen i think

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m

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fourteen

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m

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so and it and i said o what the fuck

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oh

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it's a new record but still the amount

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now

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of money jes

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has

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and

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my

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but it's it's it's

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like

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like a friend of mine who is also collector said it's only worth

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i

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this if people

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right

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pay money

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true

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so

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very true

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the price set things are really hard to do and determine the

[phil]:

but

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value of stuff i mean for me

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oh

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japan is pressing from from them

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you

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kiss

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do yeah

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in the early

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o

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seventies means more

[phil]:

work

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to me as as as a person that than it does for you because

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oh

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it's a sentimental value for me so

[phil]:

right

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it's it's really hard to know

[phil]:

what

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what's what records are worth

[phil]:

by

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but on

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the

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the other hand it's it's always fun go on diskogson and talk to people about

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the value of records nowadays and and well people are paying a ship

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yes

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load of money for records these days and

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hm

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it's in u oration also and

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m

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they

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oh

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are discovering vinal records

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yes

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in a way

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he

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that you and

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at

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i i mean we took stuff granted growing up because it was cast tapes and

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vinal records

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yeah

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and seven inch and seven inch singles that that's it we didn't have cads within

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a

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the streaming

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oh

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we didn't have pods and what not so we had to

[phil]:

yes

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to rely on the physical format

[phil]:

yeah

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and and and what not so

[phil]:

people

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people i mean kids nowadays they tend to pay well

[phil]:

yes

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steep prices for for final record so

[phil]:

oh

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i don't know i think it's a bit much

[phil]:

yeah

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i'm i'm a sheep skate

[phil]:

oh

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when it comes to to stuff like

[phil]:

yeah

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that i but but it's it's hard when you paid like

[phil]:

yeah

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when you have like a kiss album from from the early seventies let's say destroyer

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and you normally pay

[phil]:

a

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around like twenty we need twenty five dollars for for that and nowadays you have

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to pay between forty and sixty the same album

[phil]:

yeah

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and back tracking like five six

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you

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years ago it's i mean it's a it's a hundred percent increase when it comes

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to to the price settings today so it's it's not but hey i don't know

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i don't know what's going on

[phil]:

yeah you're you're one of those dudes that i think if you were rich you'd

[phil]:

be like

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i

[phil]:

you know how j leno has like this he's got like a thousand different kinds

[phil]:

of cars and stuff like he collects these cars and has like this garage full

[phil]:

of cars

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a

[phil]:

i think you would have a garage

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hm

[phil]:

full of vinal records

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oh

[phil]:

that

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yeah

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would be you

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oh yeah

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you were rich and

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oh

[phil]:

had that kind of money and you'd be spending

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without a

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the

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doubt

[phil]:

five hundred thousand dollars on these records and ship you know m h

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well yeah

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m

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and that's why i

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m

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am starting a record story

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we

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so i can look at a lot of albums

[phil]:

there you go there you go

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both

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and

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at home and in the shop

[phil]:

yeah and get a discount on records right buy a whole

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oh

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sale

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yeah

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and then

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you

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you get

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see

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to discount you get them cheap

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oh man

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there you go

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all right so that's it

[phil]:

that's it that's what you got man that's that's

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yeah

[phil]:

some crazy ship some

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it

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crazy

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is

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ship

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it is actually

[phil]:

all right let's talk about you you mentioned some of these older bands like kiss

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do

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we'll talk about kiss here in a little bit but

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hm

[phil]:

we've been talking about some of these

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taking a

[phil]:

you know like should these bands give it up like death leopard and motley crew

[phil]:

and all that i think the

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h

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definitive answer

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m i

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is absolutely fucking not if you judge based on they were the most profitable

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the

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tours

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most

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in twenty

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able

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twenty two

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yeah

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it so

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yeah

[phil]:

defleppert and motley crew tour made a hundred and seventy three

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yeah

[phil]:

million dollars across

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you do

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thirty five shows

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holy crap

[phil]:

guns and roses ninety three million across twenty seven shows

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oh

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now

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my

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you compare

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oh

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that to legendary rolling stones

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i

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hundred and seventy nine million across only twenty shows so

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m

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maiden

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m as

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seventy six million across

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a

[phil]:

forty seven shows it took them forty seven shows to get seventy six million i

[phil]:

find that really tough to believe that's just crazy to

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m

[phil]:

me that it took

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m

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that many shows

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hm

[phil]:

and then are you a fan

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a

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of t s o

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i'll take

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no

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that as a no i'll take that as a no

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yeah oh

[phil]:

well they made i can't read that fifty four million i'm getting all the my

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eyes are ship fifty four million across d eight

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oh

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shows

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man

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see what i love about

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what

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t

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i love

[phil]:

s o is you got all these metal heads right you got it's basically started

[phil]:

from savatage

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m

[phil]:

the band savatage right

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hm

[phil]:

on where i live

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m

[phil]:

you've got all these religious

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all

[phil]:

nut jobs right metal is bad it's the

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i

[phil]:

devil it's this it's that but they'll go and

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hm

[phil]:

like spend two hundred bucks on a freakingtso ticket

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m

[phil]:

you know and it's

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hm

[phil]:

like you understand what you're listening to you're listening to the devil's music right okay

[phil]:

we

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yeah

[phil]:

won't go there but but there you go so yeah that's some of the most

[phil]:

profitable tours in twenty twenty it'll be

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yeah

[phil]:

interesting to see what twenty twenty three brings

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oh yeah oh yeah

[phil]:

yeah so

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it's a lot of cool stuff

[phil]:

yeah

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so but but it's it's crazy that you say i mean we've been

[phil]:

oh

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talking on and off about this it should

[phil]:

m

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these bands call it quits or what but but it's i mean the vast majority

[phil]:

oh

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of people that goes to these shows i mean

[phil]:

oh

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they're they're i mean they're spending their money

[phil]:

yah

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and they want this so

[phil]:

h

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i'm guessing i mean

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h

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now

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oh

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i'm i'm thinking to do it is like the personal

[phil]:

oh

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way but now okay people are happy let's leave it at at that but all

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right i have an opinion but

[phil]:

ah

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but it's i don't know i don't know

[phil]:

now you know it's

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i don't

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it's

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know

[phil]:

it's you know i think

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i think

[phil]:

the number one grossing band tour wise was i don't know if it's it's a

[phil]:

person or if it's a band called bad bunny or something like that

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m

[phil]:

and i don't

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oh

[phil]:

remember the exact

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don't

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number

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remember

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but

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the

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it was somewhere

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number

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in the

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yeah

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neighborhood of three hundred and seventy three million or something like that that they made

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oh

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i'm like that's

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am

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insane that's insane

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never

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i've

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heard

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never

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of them

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heard of this and for them to make you know that much on a tour

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is just crazy and then but but

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bad bunny

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bad bunny i think

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damn

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i don't know

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in hell yeah

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i don't

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that's

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know

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a

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man

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ship bend name

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well

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well it is it is

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it is

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i don't know

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but it's it's i

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it

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don't

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is

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know it's interesting though that you've got some of these old or bands though like

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crew and and deffleperd i mean i know duff lepers still putting out music but

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um

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yeah

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well if you want to call it music

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yes

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um

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oh oh

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but but that that they're still able to rake up the dope and what was

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interesting is

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we

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on this article that i read lika wasn't on it

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oh

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so i don't know if they

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so

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were just

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i don't

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really

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know

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low i didn't there was a full list that i didn't i read but when

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i was preparing for the shot and go back to it um so i don't

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know where metallic

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i don't

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was

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know

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on that list but i got to imagine they were pretty high on that list

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so

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they have to be

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he

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i

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have

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don't know

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to be

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but but it's yeah

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but anyway

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that's crazy

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that's crazy

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yeah speaking of older bands did you see the post at mickidi did to

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oh

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celebrate lami on on i mean it's like seven years since he passed

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i know i can't believe it's seven

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h

[phil]:

years already

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h no

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jesus

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no it's nuts and even though

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oh

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that he is touring with the scorpions at the

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oh

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moment there was he there was a whole story that that he wrote it was

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really sentimental to read but but it's i mean for

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oh

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i mean since like the early nineties up until lem passed away like seven years

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ago he was a member of motor head and is a big part of his

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life and he did a very very nice celebration to let me

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yeah

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and it was really really cool to see

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yes

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and it's i mean

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yeah

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i think that the quote was at the end don't don't cry over your beer

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drink it or something like that

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love it

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and signed lammy so so i mean we should celebrate people like that and i

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think that that micky did a really nice thing to

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hm

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remember lammy i mean were me and my son the other day we

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

spoke about this and and

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oh

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all the big bands that he's discovering

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but

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has a chance to see at the moment i mean he's seen kiss already alice

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cooper maiden saxon

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oh

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it wants to see you as priest we're going to see metallic

[phil]:

yeah

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and next year and

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oh

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so forth and

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oh

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and

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oh

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i told them we should do this now because we don't know when when they

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are calling it quits for good we went to see kiss um last year and

svensson]:

and said this is this is it is the end of the road it's no

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more kiss after this

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maybe

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and

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maybe teaser

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maybe yeah

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teaser

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yeah

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i've got

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these

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a story

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are

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about

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tsar

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i've got a story

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yeah

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about that

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oh yeah but it's i'm afraid

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you should

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but

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be

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but it's we talked about this so who's up who's next with the arena band

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yeah

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and i couldn't figure it out

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on

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i really couldn't figure

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

it out when when guns roses metallic

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o

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maiden

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eh

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well those are like the biggest names right now the flapper

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hm

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well at some point

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m

svensson]:

motley crew has been away for for a couple of years but

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yeah

svensson]:

when they call it quits for good who's gonna who's next

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there is no body there is no buddy

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no

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no

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i mean so

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bad

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somebody

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bunny

svensson]:

said oh no

[phil]:

i don't know man

svensson]:

somebody said the food fires but but that that's not hard ark or metal so

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i'm thinking only

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

hardrockand mental at the moment i mean

[phil]:

where are the food fighters

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is

[phil]:

even still technically a band i mean we've not really

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yeah

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heard

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yeah

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anything about that you know

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no

[phil]:

i know dave grol's been doing

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no

[phil]:

some stuff is his honaca shows but is there

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m m

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you know

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well i don't know but but there's a band that oh playing arenas

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hm but

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but

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i think it's

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i don't know

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it's pop it's all pop it's taylor swift it's whatever i don't even know i

[phil]:

couldn't even tell you i

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no

[phil]:

just run

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no

[phil]:

from that stuff so much i couldn't even give you tell you he bandonebut

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but is there any any younger metal bents the cic

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i

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of maiden and and metallic or

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or

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at least

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oh

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under way to becoming the next big thing

[phil]:

as much as i hate to say it

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i

[phil]:

i think

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yeah

[phil]:

ghost has a chance

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oh

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to get there

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oh yeah i forgot about those

[phil]:

um

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i don't like them i don't like them at all

[phil]:

i like a couple of songs

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

but for the most part yeah i'm with you this

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

this last record i don't even know what the fuck it was but um yeah

[phil]:

i think there they've got us so i

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yeah

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think you still

svensson]:

they got a shot

[phil]:

you know but

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ye

[phil]:

i think if i'm if i'm thinking like no there's really nobody

svensson]:

ah

[phil]:

of that caliber that's coming up

svensson]:

no

[phil]:

behind the metallic as pre maidens all these

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yeah

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yeah

svensson]:

it's

[phil]:

m

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crazy to think about

[phil]:

m yeah i think

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i

[phil]:

food fighters could replace

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just

[phil]:

you tube and that

svensson]:

ah

[phil]:

alternative

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

rock but i mean

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

those guys aren't aren't that young either though for being honest you know so

svensson]:

davy is born in sixty nine so he's like two years

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

older than me

[phil]:

yeah so i mean he's he's

svensson]:

so

[phil]:

got another

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

twenty years

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is getting

[phil]:

i guess if you know

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yeah

[phil]:

um so i don't know man yeah

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i don't

[phil]:

it's a

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

it's an interesting concept it's an interesting thing to think about because you know i've

[phil]:

said this you know i've been shy about saying you know music me pretty much

[phil]:

died in the in the nineties all the

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hm

[phil]:

legends that we had kind of went away and were replaced by the

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yeah

[phil]:

soudan gardens and their nirvana and all that stuff

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

and in those

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hm

[phil]:

bands weren't say what you want to like you

svensson]:

what

[phil]:

can like sound garden and vana but they weren't the same caliber

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

as a priest or a maiden or led zepplin or a sabbath

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

you can have good music but not be of that caliber if

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

you know what i'm saying

svensson]:

m

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right

svensson]:

yeah but i mean we we see say

[phil]:

oh

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that in in you and

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

i have a different opinion about those bands because i'm not necessarily

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

thinking that there are the best thing

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i

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i think there were necessary for the next thing

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a

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it's sort of like

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i what

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when

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rot

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rock the streets in the seventies

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so

svensson]:

some sort of like because i remember seeing in arana we talked about this seeing

svensson]:

nevada on m t v and thinking ho lay fuck

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o that

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that's the end of

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okay

svensson]:

the f t the poodle rock era the hair metal bands so so i was

svensson]:

happy about that ah

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and all of a sudden there was more aggressive music coming on the scene

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

with all the death metal stuff that came out i was thrilled about

[phil]:

so

svensson]:

so i think that's sort of

[phil]:

like

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like putting

[phil]:

to get

svensson]:

an end to all those poisons britany fuck

[phil]:

oh yeah

svensson]:

what not it

[phil]:

has

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had to be

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would it would

[phil]:

i

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i be more happy if it wasn't another punk rock revolution of course punk rock

svensson]:

music is

[phil]:

what

svensson]:

way cooler but but it was necessary

[phil]:

sary

svensson]:

to make a statement sad enough of this hollywood crap we need to go back

svensson]:

to the music to the roots guitar

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are

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drums

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the

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and a base guitar and somebody

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by

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sinks enough

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no

svensson]:

of the keyboards enough of the glamor enough of the other crap that has no

svensson]:

part

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a

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of it says

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

i who likes kiss but

[phil]:

you

svensson]:

you

[phil]:

know

svensson]:

know what i mean so to tay that into the next thing for i mean

svensson]:

say what you will about the music that came afterwards but all of a sudden

svensson]:

slayer what

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

was relevant again in the early nineties

[phil]:

hm

svensson]:

there were making music and people like

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

entombed and palm death at the gates and and what not they looked up to

svensson]:

people like slayer and and those kinds of bands so

[phil]:

he

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it

[phil]:

was

svensson]:

was

[phil]:

not

svensson]:

not or it field itself i think

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

so it was a necessary evil for you and

[phil]:

i

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i think

[phil]:

oh

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it was a good thing so if you know what i mean if you know

svensson]:

what i mean so but i agree to you

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

at some extent i agree with you but it's i could

[phil]:

he

svensson]:

see that coming it has had to stop i mean the

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

bonjovis of arenas that i mean the

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

salt

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

fuck in hell a lot of tickets and it's a show and it's i don't

svensson]:

know i don't know but that

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

but but it's

[phil]:

well

svensson]:

well give it to me

[phil]:

it is what it is man it is what it

svensson]:

it

[phil]:

is

svensson]:

is

[phil]:

i don't know

svensson]:

yes

[phil]:

we'll see we'll see how it goes but you know

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

i think we can

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

the ultimate blame i think is on the record labels by not giving

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

artists

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

the freedom to do you

svensson]:

yes

[phil]:

know to be the next boy

svensson]:

the next

[phil]:

or zepplin

svensson]:

we

[phil]:

or sabbath or

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hm

[phil]:

whatever you know

svensson]:

yes

[phil]:

even the eagles

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

to a certain extent right i mean that we just we don't have that that

[phil]:

luxury because they need to sell because they're not selling anything anyway and so they

[phil]:

need to maximize whatever they can sell that they need to sign

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

artists that they feel they can sell instead of looking go and this is this

[phil]:

is awesome music and

svensson]:

post

[phil]:

let's make this happen

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

and let's kick

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

some ass

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

and

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yeah

[phil]:

let's

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yeah

[phil]:

you know let's do this stuff and it's just not happening

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no

[phil]:

just not

svensson]:

you

[phil]:

happening

svensson]:

should watch the documentary about sound city the record studio that

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

came out in the in the in the

[phil]:

ah

svensson]:

seventies and and have recorded i mean rage against the machine nirvana fleetwood max stephen

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

nick tom patty you should watch that documentary on the analogue

[phil]:

a boy

svensson]:

recording

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

and there as a

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

uh when when they

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

went into to

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

the digital recording

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

ah and that this studio wouldn't have anything to do with the digital

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

sound the pro tools and the what not

[phil]:

m yeah

svensson]:

they stayed analogue and

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

and dave gral he bought that whole console

[phil]:

oh yeah yeah

svensson]:

and put

[phil]:

i saw

svensson]:

it up

[phil]:

that

svensson]:

in a studio yeah yeah

[phil]:

when

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and

[phil]:

when the dude from a c d c i can only think of one

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yeah

[phil]:

brian

svensson]:

brian

[phil]:

johnson

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johnson

[phil]:

when when he did

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

that van tour thing that he's been doing

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

and he went

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

and hooked up with dave growl and they went to the

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

studio and showed that that was

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

fucking epic

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

man i'm

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

looking at that going

svensson]:

and

[phil]:

i wouldn't even know what the hell to do with that that's

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and there's

[phil]:

to oh

svensson]:

there's a thing in

[phil]:

and the

svensson]:

there's a quote that that i need to address there is a woman working in

svensson]:

the sancti studio wasn't the fanciest studio ever there was something about the

[phil]:

yeah i

svensson]:

the atmosphere in there in there that made bands do all this great stuff and

svensson]:

she said if you're not recording analogue you're not a real

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

man and this comes from a woman

[phil]:

h

svensson]:

and and and i just froze and and i was alone watching this thing

[phil]:

h oh

svensson]:

anybody hear this and i had to rewind and said

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

what the fuck so but that's

[phil]:

well

svensson]:

and she was sad and disappointed because she has been working there for like three

svensson]:

or something like that and i understand i had the privilege to

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

to be able

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

to record on those reels those big reels

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wow

svensson]:

on on

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

on analogue tape

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

and have

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

the producer

[phil]:

no

svensson]:

go like this where you see them

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

cutting the tape by hand it's it's it's fucking insane every ber when we started

svensson]:

recording dasatilly and i think in

[phil]:

h

svensson]:

well

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

shut shouldn't we be in the room playing together now that's a new thing

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

you don't have to okay so we're recording separately

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

and we we'll

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

cut it up so it's going to be good

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and it's

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

it's still

[phil]:

what

svensson]:

mind blong today that we can still do this

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

but we don't have to pay for expensive

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

yes tudiotime any more we have our own studio and we can do whatever

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

fucking we want whenever we want so

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

without paying

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

ship load of money for it but

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

i'm

[phil]:

just

svensson]:

just glad but i ve been able

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

to have the

[phil]:

it

svensson]:

fortunate to being recording on analogue tape so so watch that if you if you

svensson]:

haven't people are there if you haven't watched that sounds a documentary

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

do it it's

[phil]:

do

svensson]:

it's

[phil]:

it

svensson]:

fucking insane do it now

[phil]:

make it happen

svensson]:

yes

[phil]:

well

svensson]:

what else

[phil]:

well we were talking about an iron maiden earlier and

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

and a couple of guys that you know or have met oh

svensson]:

oh yeah i'm scaring

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

it right now

[phil]:

yes it is paul diana

svensson]:

it

[phil]:

paul diano

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

and gus g got together in

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m

[phil]:

um i'm drawing a blank on the country greece got together in greece on

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

stage and gus g played guitar

svensson]:

hm

[phil]:

and they

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

played all the classics off the first two maiden records

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

and actually it sounded pretty fucking good wasn't bad

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

if you're not watching the video

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

like the look on mike's face is like

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

oh i have to say this i was

[phil]:

m i think

svensson]:

thinking that you weren't going gonna go with kiss first but i actually watch

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

this

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

just minutes before we started recording this

svensson]:

i don't know i don't know what to say

[phil]:

okay

svensson]:

i mean

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

it's

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

paul diana and it's

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

i'm lost for words i don't know what to say the dude is sitting in

svensson]:

a wheel chair

[phil]:

yeah oh

svensson]:

front and center stage singing all those tunes

[phil]:

but he's out there doing it though man he's out there doing it i mean

[phil]:

yeah that's not the

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

best option but he's out there doing it i mean

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

and it's got to be tough to sing sitting in a wheel chair too right

[phil]:

i mean just the mechanics

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

of singing you know you could probably

svensson]:

are you

[phil]:

speak

svensson]:

hearing yourself right now

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

he's sitting in a wheel chair

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

isn't i mean

[phil]:

well you don't think he should be out there in wiltshire oh

svensson]:

i don't think he should be out there at all

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

i don't know

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h

svensson]:

i mean if you're

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not able to walk on your two

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feet up when it be time to call it quits

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you know i think

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m okay

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that depends i think that depends because i could i could say that

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m

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you know when dave growl broke his leg in the middle of the concert that

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you were at

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oh

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she should have gone

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that's not the same

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but

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thing

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it it kind of is he went out there for the fans and the fans

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wanted to see that

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yeah

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and he went out there

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yeah

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and honestly was was he did he sound as good as he did in the

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day hell no fun no not many singers do but he didn't sound that

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ah

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bad i didn't think he sounded

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no

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that there was some notes he couldn't

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yes

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he tried to hit and couldn't

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do you know

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but

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why he's seen in wheel share

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yeah

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polyana

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because he's all fucked up

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yeah

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he's all fucked up

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he's

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on

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so

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his

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fucked

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own on

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up

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his own accord to i mean

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yeah

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yea he did it

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yeah

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to himself

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oh yeah

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he admits that he you

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the

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know

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yeah

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he's not

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yes

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you know he's done some things that are are less than respectable we could say

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um

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oh yeah

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you know i mean

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oh

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i don't know the guy i've never met him i don't know how he is

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as a person i know he's done something that i don't

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m

[phil]:

approve of and you know

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m

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but

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i met him a couple of times he's he's a nice dude is a really

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nice dude but but it's

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yes

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well well i don't know i don't know i don't know i met blake bailey

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too and he's even nicer but

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but

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but it's i don't know i don't know

[phil]:

but he's kind of like a whiny little bitch kind of like dave mistaine

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what

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when it comes to motley crew and all that oh no

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who

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never mind never mind

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yeah

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don't the only i'm thinking

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m

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of somebody else never

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m

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mind

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okay

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never

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all

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mind

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right

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never mind

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so

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ignore me ignore

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okay

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me

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okay okay rip the bandage off with kiss why don't you come on man

[phil]:

kiss well kiss is going to be around forever in

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ah

[phil]:

and ever and ever so

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fucking knew it

[phil]:

you know we've heard the rumblings gen simmons s mate has made comments about you

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know it's not out of the possibility

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the

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that you know other people could

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i

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become kiss right

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yeah

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and

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yeah

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people are like well now and then most

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the

[phil]:

recently paul stanley based ally said yeah yeah they can let me try to see

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if i can find the quote here um

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oh come on

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m kiss is like an army

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like an

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or

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army

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a sports team

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i

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when the m v p is no longer playing

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is

[phil]:

or retired the team doesn't call it quits

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he

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on a battle field

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battled

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an army when they lose soldier

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and the

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doesn't

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soldier

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wave the white

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doesn't

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flag somebody else picks

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some

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up the weapon and runs forward

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one

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so in one form

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one

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or another

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or another

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i believe

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believe

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there will always be

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as

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a kiss oh

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oh you're killing me right now fucking

[phil]:

hey

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hell

[phil]:

that's kiss that's

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oh

[phil]:

paul stanley right

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man

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there

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oh yeah i know

[phil]:

you know so kiss

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i know

[phil]:

will be around forever so this may be the end of the road for the

[phil]:

current line up of kiss the article did say

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all

[phil]:

something about you know maybe this is this this version of kiss will be

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i

[phil]:

done and then it will re invent itself for another

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ye

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round

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yeah

[phil]:

and it will just keep wing and go on

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oh

[phil]:

for ever and ever

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yeah

[phil]:

and ever and ever and yes i don't

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yes

[phil]:

know i don't know

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no man you would think that i have an opinion about this

[phil]:

oh

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you think that but no

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

i i'm lost for words i've they've been talking about this for a couple of

svensson]:

couple

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

of years doing auditions with younger

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

musicians taking their place i don't know i don't know what's going on i mean

svensson]:

in at the end of the road now they're coming back

[phil]:

a

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to

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

europe again and people are going you should see them again no i had my

svensson]:

good bye it was emotional i said farewell not any more fuck it leave

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

me alone for crying out loud let me have this moment it was a beautiful

svensson]:

moment they played like one of the best shows i've ever seen

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

the somewhat twenty shows that i've seen with kiss

[phil]:

yet

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and it's

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i

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i

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don't

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don't know

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yeah

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i don't know what's going on

[phil]:

so

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i don't know

[phil]:

so if they do re invent themselves let's say in

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so

[phil]:

like five years a new kiss for new members right paul jean all those guys

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oh

[phil]:

they're no longer of the band it's it's four new guys

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

would you give it a chance

svensson]:

hm no

[phil]:

no oh

svensson]:

no

[phil]:

okay interesting

svensson]:

shan's maybe but i would like

[phil]:

i oh

svensson]:

close one of my eyes and cover my and and do like this if you're

svensson]:

watching you tube right now i would do like this and maybe

[phil]:

maybe just maybe

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go take a sneak

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

peak but that's not kiss kiss

[phil]:

what

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for me is something else

[phil]:

oh

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i mean i'm still stuck in nineteen

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h

svensson]:

seventy three right before the day

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h

svensson]:

it all broke for them they went i mean it's it's i'm so fascinated about

svensson]:

when they became kids when they were still roaming the

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

streets of new york city and still played

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

at tennis twenty third street where were horse space were and the

[phil]:

my

svensson]:

first album

[phil]:

what

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hotter in hell the first

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

tour the second tour up to kiss alive i mean

[phil]:

my

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my

[phil]:

god

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god that's kiss for me

[phil]:

hm

svensson]:

it really is i mean i'm so happy about all the odor albums that they

svensson]:

did in the seventies but by the other stuff it's i mean i love them

svensson]:

till death i mean i still collect

[phil]:

was oh

svensson]:

the old stuff and i keep

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

my ear to do ground when when it comes to everything else that that has

svensson]:

to do with with the band but it's no enough

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

is enough i had my good bye in twenty twenty two i'm so happy i'm

svensson]:

so thankful for all the music

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

but that's it that's it

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

that was the end of the road for me

[phil]:

see i don't agree with paul stanley

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i don't

[phil]:

i don't think it's like a sports team or an army because it's you've got

[phil]:

with sports you've almost anybody

svensson]:

almost anybody

[phil]:

could be trained to do a certain kind of sport right

svensson]:

hm

[phil]:

i guess you could argue

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i guess

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certain

svensson]:

all

[phil]:

extent the same thing for

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yes

[phil]:

music but i do

svensson]:

ah

[phil]:

feel like with

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white

[phil]:

music there are certain

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oh

[phil]:

musicians um that just like eddie van helen and jimmy hendrix they just had a

[phil]:

way with the guitar that nobody else did

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yeah

[phil]:

they're sure there are

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there are

[phil]:

jimmy page is a great guitars but he's no jimmy hendrix right so i feel

[phil]:

like it's a

svensson]:

like

[phil]:

bit different when you've got you know a sports team is like twenty sonat players

[phil]:

right depending on the sport you you're talking about a band that's

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oh

[phil]:

anywhere between four and six

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

you know members that's a very tight

svensson]:

that's

[phil]:

net and there's a certain talent that all messes together in a certain way

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m

[phil]:

to create

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m

[phil]:

that

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oh

[phil]:

kind of thing it's also very creative sports isn't creative

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

and army is not creative

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

it's you know music is a very creative thing there's a lot of stuff that

[phil]:

has to come together to build a song um

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

and a lot of talent from

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m

[phil]:

a lot

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a

[phil]:

of different directions to create that music and so i don't i don't think it's

[phil]:

the same thing and i don't think you get four different guys in there it's

[phil]:

not going to be the same band it's going to be it might be good

[phil]:

it might be awesome and might be the next arena band that we were trying

[phil]:

to find earlier but i don't think you could call that kiss because it's not

[phil]:

the same energy

svensson]:

no

[phil]:

it's not the same thing right

svensson]:

yeah yeah

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and

[phil]:

may

svensson]:

maybe it's because i mean maybe i'm afraid

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

i don't know but but it's i'm i well

[phil]:

well

svensson]:

it's too much it's too fucking weird to think about it's

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

too fucking weird to think about

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

so but but you mentioned so i'm calling this to

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

halt college quits and moving on to you said

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

van helen

[phil]:

oh

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it makes

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

me really

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

happy say

[phil]:

it

svensson]:

what

[phil]:

was

svensson]:

you will but

[phil]:

but

svensson]:

still today

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

van helen and and edivanhalen's music

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and his d n

[phil]:

thank

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is still live

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

in his son i mean wolfgutn van helen i mean have you heard this dude

svensson]:

play guitar talking about

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

divan helen i mean he's got i mean a massive

[phil]:

eh

svensson]:

amount on his

[phil]:

you

svensson]:

shoulders to come

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

up with and near his father but

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

he is doing a great job is a really skilled guitar player and he writes

svensson]:

all his music

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

yeah by himself

[phil]:

no

svensson]:

place all the instrument

[phil]:

what

svensson]:

and

[phil]:

now

svensson]:

now all of a sudden people are thinking that he is selfish

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

i mean to read the headlines about

[phil]:

ah

svensson]:

he has to defend himself for doing it all

[phil]:

hm

svensson]:

i mean

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

it's crazy

[phil]:

great

svensson]:

to think i

[phil]:

okay

svensson]:

mean if you're

[phil]:

watch

svensson]:

watching that tribute to tell hawkins the food fighters

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

drummer former he played

[phil]:

like

svensson]:

some of the devon hail stuff i mean he's

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

a real musician and i'm so happy that he's

[phil]:

now

svensson]:

out there doing this because like you said we need people

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

to to conduct their instruments in a proper to have that feel

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

where they where there is a drum there is a base guitar there is a

svensson]:

guitar player and there is a singer if if the or if the guitar player

svensson]:

sings

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

don't

svensson]:

don't care

[phil]:

care but

svensson]:

but but

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

it's it's

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

it's meat and potatoes

[phil]:

hm ah

svensson]:

there was a friend of my who who records stuff and he said you re

svensson]:

you re a meetin potato

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

guy you want it simple you want it straight on and hell yeah i wanted

svensson]:

straight on i had a hard time listen to to stuff that that

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

it's too much

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

samples and too much all over the place with with

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

paterson and all that kind of ship i

[phil]:

what

svensson]:

wanted the real stuff where you you

[phil]:

go

svensson]:

go into a room together and and

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

you count count four and then you've fucking let it rip and and and you

svensson]:

sweat there for a couple of hours now the rehearsal space and and then you

svensson]:

look at one another and you think who

[phil]:

whoa

svensson]:

this is sucking the greatest thing ever man

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

and to be able to see

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

wolfgang van helen play together with david and the rest of the band i mean

svensson]:

taylor hawkins was

[phil]:

thank

svensson]:

such

[phil]:

you

svensson]:

huge friend

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

helen fan and to be able to

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

wolf gown doing those van helen songs

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

it's brought a tear to my eye have you seen it

[phil]:

no

svensson]:

oh it's great

[phil]:

i tried listen to some

svensson]:

it's

[phil]:

of that

svensson]:

great

[phil]:

stuff um was mammoth v h or whatever it's called

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

and

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

just i couldn't i couldn't get through it

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

so

svensson]:

okay

[phil]:

so

svensson]:

now i know i haven't listened that much to it but but i think that

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

it's it's he

[phil]:

no

svensson]:

knows his stuff and i'm happy about that uh he can really write some songs

svensson]:

and and and

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

play the instrument and he is a really decent singer too so i'm just happy

svensson]:

about ow about that

[phil]:

well there you go

svensson]:

so yeah

[phil]:

there you go

svensson]:

you gotta get something else

[phil]:

i got one last thing and it's not

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

it's not on a positive note i'm afraid to say because

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oh

[phil]:

because we sort of talked about

svensson]:

they sort of talked

[phil]:

this

svensson]:

about

[phil]:

i think it might have been the last show of last year or the one

[phil]:

before we're talking brought up

svensson]:

what

[phil]:

umarolsmith and stephen

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

tyler you know

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

having to cancel all their shows and in vegas and

svensson]:

mhm

[phil]:

stuff like that and you know are we beginning to see the end of that

[phil]:

era you know

svensson]:

ah

[phil]:

and as you know his tour keeps getting cancelled and he basically came out and

svensson]:

a

[phil]:

said he just can't suck and walk any more and

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

you know

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

so he does he's not sure when or if he'll be able

svensson]:

yes

[phil]:

to tour he says that his mind is there and his creativity is there that

[phil]:

he can still write seeing and stuff like that but he just can't get up

[phil]:

on stage any more so i fear

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

that we're seeing the end of of aus o

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yeah

[phil]:

yeah but

svensson]:

i think that been

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

in the works for like a couple of years

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

i didn't

[phil]:

yeah i think

svensson]:

really

[phil]:

so too

svensson]:

think that he was coming back well

[phil]:

ah

svensson]:

it's sad but but it's understandable

[phil]:

the dude's up there and honest

svensson]:

do

[phil]:

to god like i said this before it's amazing that dude is even still alive

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

and i mean

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

say what you want about the last couple of records he's put out i mean

[phil]:

the fact that he's still putting out music that's still better

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

than

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

some of the newer bands coming up in his

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

condition

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

is just insane to me

svensson]:

it is

[phil]:

i mean this

svensson]:

it

[phil]:

last

svensson]:

is

[phil]:

record wasn't bad at all

svensson]:

no no no no

[phil]:

because

svensson]:

but it's

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

well m

[phil]:

yeah it's a shame

svensson]:

take a moment for let's take a moment for as

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

okay i'm done

[phil]:

and also heard geyser butler's got nemonia too and at that age

svensson]:

oh shit

[phil]:

neumoniais not that

svensson]:

no

[phil]:

good news so i don't know i don't know man

svensson]:

i don't know

[phil]:

i fear we're at that age where we are seeing the end of an era

[phil]:

come to a close

svensson]:

h

[phil]:

and

svensson]:

m yeah

[phil]:

it's not good

svensson]:

i believe so too

[phil]:

but let's pick this ship

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

out man we got music we got

svensson]:

yeah

[phil]:

we got

svensson]:

we

[phil]:

fucking

svensson]:

get

[phil]:

music

svensson]:

music

[phil]:

this week

svensson]:

so this is another swedish band of course

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

since i'm

[phil]:

yes

svensson]:

doing all this but but it's it's this is great because we have we had

svensson]:

the ones on friends

[phil]:

red

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of

[phil]:

mark

svensson]:

ours a great fucking punk rock band

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

old girl band and this is another one

[phil]:

ah

svensson]:

and i just wanted

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

you you should pronounce you used to say the band name it's in squedish and

svensson]:

we've been talking phil and i how

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ho

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how the fuck

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at

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do we do this do we

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

do it in english or in swede and we

[phil]:

ye

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both of it

[phil]:

right

svensson]:

i think so

[phil]:

uh

svensson]:

you go ahead and you start

[phil]:

uh

svensson]:

you only said you saw

[phil]:

a

svensson]:

the band name and and this is what you came up with

[phil]:

yeah yurarta luck

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i think that's cool

[phil]:

m

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in in swedish it's

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m oh

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out

[phil]:

no okay

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and this is also an old girl band from from almo swede where i'm located

svensson]:

and this is a really really cool band it's sour like

[phil]:

like no

svensson]:

a mix between punk rock

[phil]:

buck

svensson]:

music and a sort of like alternative

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

and with some goth feel to it it's all over the place but still they're

[phil]:

oh

svensson]:

kicking s and

[phil]:

hm

svensson]:

taking names they

[phil]:

i

svensson]:

i think they they started only a couple of years ago like i can remember

[phil]:

oh

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when when i started out but it's they played a couple of shows they are

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going to do release party for and this is we've been talking about this releasing

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full length albums

[phil]:

ah

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it it what was common when you and i

[phil]:

it

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ere grown up we couldn't wait

[phil]:

oh

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to get the next maiden album a

[phil]:

hm

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full length album

[phil]:

yeah

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of course we bought some some seven in single just to to

[phil]:

yeah

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keep it like like fresh and real but i don't know two songs you have

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to flip that one over you get tired of that but but nowadays to be

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current and

[phil]:

yeah

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in all this noise white noise of all the bands the releasing music left and

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right you have to do something different so single it's what's up these days

[phil]:

h

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if you want to if you're a mid range band and

[phil]:

m

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you want to stay current

[phil]:

oh

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release singles that's that's the new thing but listen it is they made

[phil]:

i did

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it even i mean quite different but still

[phil]:

oh

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with single releasing a new single every friday during two months

[phil]:

oh hm

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every every friday you get a new single from this band

[phil]:

oh

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for for two months and and then they are having a release party on january

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twentieth to celebrate all these songs that that they released isn't that a cool thing

[phil]:

i love it it's cool yeah

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yeah

[phil]:

yeah

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it's different and it keeps them current everybody

[phil]:

i

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is talking about them there on social media and and what not there getting interviewed

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and podcast and so forth

[phil]:

oh

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because it's a different way to see to release music

[phil]:

oh

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ah and it's it's it's all in good fun i think

[phil]:

hm

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and and

[phil]:

oh

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well i don't

[phil]:

oh

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know what to say any more i mean to b a to still

[phil]:

oh

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release

[phil]:

yes

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music like this band us and all go band and kick the living

[phil]:

oh

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ship out of you doing so uh i mean we have to play this song

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it's called orbit from

[phil]:

oh

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phil what's

[phil]:

god came pronounce

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what's

[phil]:

it like you do your art

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yurartaor

[phil]:

you

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at her

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at

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is orbit on sunsonvinal podcast let's go late rip

[phil]:

oh that's fucking

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ah

[phil]:

awesome fucking awesome

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you see

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you know

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yeah

[phil]:

like

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i know

[phil]:

for those that don't know

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those

[phil]:

mike knows this but for those that don't know

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just

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way

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now

[phil]:

back in the day that's how i met mike i used to do a radio

[phil]:

show um we actually had several

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actually

[phil]:

music based odcast and there was a punk band

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

that had a similar vibe to this band and it's just i love it because

[phil]:

like you said it's it's kind of a lot of different genres

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yes

[phil]:

all put together into one

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yeah

[phil]:

and they make it

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yeah

[phil]:

raking a lot of bands try that and it doesn't

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yeah

[phil]:

work they

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yeah

[phil]:

somehow somehow pulled it off and made it work is

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oh yeah

[phil]:

well dan yeah definitely

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yeah and and it's it's

[phil]:

so

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so it's so crazy because this is what we've been talking about actually for the

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last hour about the real

[phil]:

yeah

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deal if you know what i mean

[phil]:

hm

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i mean

[phil]:

m

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for

[phil]:

i

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people going in to rehearsal

[phil]:

i

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space and and just

[phil]:

ah

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fucking let it rip and and they've been able to capture that on a tape

[phil]:

ye

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and and they released it and it sounds so fresh and it's it's

[phil]:

oh

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it kicks you in the ah well you know you know

[phil]:

it's

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so

[phil]:

awesome

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check them out shake them out on social media gurarta

[phil]:

oh

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that's the english name and in swedish it's alta and they're for malmo sweden

[phil]:

yeah yeah

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well take a listen to them they re

[phil]:

oh

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ononspotify and what not

[phil]:

yeah

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and if you're in malmo around january twentieth go

[phil]:

oh

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see this band i've been and some clips on youtube and i'm going myself

[phil]:

oh

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hopefully there is not

[phil]:

oh

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a thing that i have to do that day but still fucking hell i'm going

svensson]:

to keep my eyes open for this band

[phil]:

yes

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so

[phil]:

hm

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give them some lot of hook them up

[phil]:

m

svensson]:

by their stuff and end well keeping

[phil]:

yeah

svensson]:

the rock and roll or punk rock alive

[phil]:

there you go

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there we go

[phil]:

there

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that's

[phil]:

you go

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it

[phil]:

and before we get away from this old girl band mike and i

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hm

[phil]:

have been teasing the idea

svensson]:

m

[phil]:

of m

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yes

[phil]:

doing a

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yes

[phil]:

female rock

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he lost

[phil]:

punk kind of special might

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so

[phil]:

be a documentary it might just be a sounds on final episode we're not quite

[phil]:

sure what

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

we're going to do with it but we feel

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the

[phil]:

like there's

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i yes

[phil]:

a lot of great female musicians out there that really don't get the

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

credit

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yeah

[phil]:

that they deserve and and

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

so we want to we want to do something to kind of put that out

[phil]:

there so stay tuned for that as we kind of develop this a little more

[phil]:

will keep you guys updated

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oh yeah

[phil]:

but i'm pretty excited about this i think it's going to be fun

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me too

[phil]:

all right

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oh it's going to be great

[phil]:

and with that

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what

[phil]:

it no more

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that's it

[phil]:

that's it we'll let you suckers get back to whatever

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but

[phil]:

it is you were

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whatever

[phil]:

doing before you stopped everything you were doing to listen to this show because i

[phil]:

know that's what you do every week

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yeah

[phil]:

and we think you for giving us your

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yeah

[phil]:

ears every week to listen to this show and

svensson]:

oh

[phil]:

we really appreciate all the support and this year as mike said in the beginning

[phil]:

we've got some cool stuff planning and a new website i keep

svensson]:

he

[phil]:

talking about that it's just it's taken longer than i wanted but yeah lots of

[phil]:

cool stuff in the works

svensson]:

in the works

[phil]:

and so go check out the website sounds on final dot com you can listen

[phil]:

to the episode subscribe

svensson]:

you

[phil]:

wherever you listen

svensson]:

i

[phil]:

to podcasts and watch the video to onsonzovinal dot com

svensson]:

oh yeah

[phil]:

so yeah

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that's it

[phil]:

that's it

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yes

[phil]:

all right later

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later

[phil]:

oh

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yeah

[phil]:

damn it

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Sounds On Vinyl
Mike Svensson, the lead singer of the bands Grand Rezerva, Dead Anarchy & Solid Rust and Phil Bowyer, co-founder of BoozeHound Entertainment talk about collecting and listening to vinyl records. Intro and Outro music by Grand Rezerva (http://grandrezerva.com).